Comments on: Lazy Reading for 2019/03/17 https://www.dragonflydigest.com/2019/03/17/lazy-reading-for-2019-03-17/ A running description of activity related to DragonFly BSD. Mon, 18 Mar 2019 22:45:38 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.0 By: Anonymous https://www.dragonflydigest.com/2019/03/17/lazy-reading-for-2019-03-17/comment-page-1/#comment-487996 Mon, 18 Mar 2019 22:45:38 +0000 https://www.dragonflydigest.com/?p=22651#comment-487996 The term you’re looking for is immutable infrastructure.

]]> By: Andrew Reilly https://www.dragonflydigest.com/2019/03/17/lazy-reading-for-2019-03-17/comment-page-1/#comment-487995 Mon, 18 Mar 2019 04:25:55 +0000 https://www.dragonflydigest.com/?p=22651#comment-487995 Smaltalk (unlike Ruby, don’t know about Crystal) also had the same deployment problem as Common Lisp. Unlike most other languages, object-oriented or not, both Smalltalk and Common Lisp were delivery-by-saving-the-state-of-the-world systems. No sense of “here’s the source code to the program, which can be run, and ended” which most of the popular operating systems of the day actually supported. Both Common Lisp and Smalltalk were (at the time) single-threaded systems that ran the whole machine. Fun to develop a program on the machine you were using, but not trivial to distribute that to other people’s computers.

Today’s equivalent would be software distribution by virtual machine image, which doesn’t seem to give most people the same creeping horror that it gives me. That’s also a “populate the machine state however you like and then freeze it” system. Probably one of the reasons why Smalltalk is getting another run.

]]> By: Anonymous https://www.dragonflydigest.com/2019/03/17/lazy-reading-for-2019-03-17/comment-page-1/#comment-487994 Mon, 18 Mar 2019 01:09:21 +0000 https://www.dragonflydigest.com/?p=22651#comment-487994 Justin

Here’s an interesting WhatsApp talk (link to video & slides).

https://codesync.global/media/maxim-fedorov-scaling-erlang-cluster-to-10-000-nodes/

Apparently, WhatsApp migrated to Linux and is no longer on FreeBSD.

See slide #5.

]]> By: Anonymous https://www.dragonflydigest.com/2019/03/17/lazy-reading-for-2019-03-17/comment-page-1/#comment-487993 Sun, 17 Mar 2019 20:08:41 +0000 https://www.dragonflydigest.com/?p=22651#comment-487993 Smalltalk lives on today in Ruby and Crystal.

]]> By: Matt M https://www.dragonflydigest.com/2019/03/17/lazy-reading-for-2019-03-17/comment-page-1/#comment-487992 Sun, 17 Mar 2019 15:05:18 +0000 https://www.dragonflydigest.com/?p=22651#comment-487992 Smalltalk failed because Smalltalk vendors were greedy and incompetent. None of them had ever heard of Turbo Pascal or understood its significance. The whole “computers were not powerful enough” is more an implementation issue that was not getting solved by those same vendors.

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