Comments on: New Radeon updates and what to do with them https://www.dragonflydigest.com/2017/05/08/new-radeon-updates-and-what-to-do-with-them/ A running description of activity related to DragonFly BSD. Wed, 17 May 2017 04:26:28 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.0 By: Xavier https://www.dragonflydigest.com/2017/05/08/new-radeon-updates-and-what-to-do-with-them/comment-page-1/#comment-486427 Wed, 17 May 2017 04:26:28 +0000 https://www.dragonflydigest.com/?p=19668#comment-486427 Updated benchmarks please

]]> By: Gregory Choi https://www.dragonflydigest.com/2017/05/08/new-radeon-updates-and-what-to-do-with-them/comment-page-1/#comment-486426 Tue, 16 May 2017 18:22:52 +0000 https://www.dragonflydigest.com/?p=19668#comment-486426 + 2 for new Postgres benchmark

]]> By: Paul D. https://www.dragonflydigest.com/2017/05/08/new-radeon-updates-and-what-to-do-with-them/comment-page-1/#comment-486409 Sun, 14 May 2017 08:36:20 +0000 https://www.dragonflydigest.com/?p=19668#comment-486409 Pros and cons from one user’s point of view.

Dragonfly’s biggest advantage is its friendly community and politics-free atmosphere. Dragonfly is also a very transparent project unlike a certain larger project that discusses items of major importance to the community in secret lists.

Yes, Dragonfly is extremely performant, but you might not get all of the bells and whistles. One item that I’ve found lacking is monitoring capability, especially with regard to storage. If you’ve got a 30+ tb HAMMER volume, how on earth do you monitor it? HAMMER needs something like “zpool status” to get an overview of the integrity of the data. HAMMER “show” and the other relevant commands to do this take too long and don’t necessarily provide useful or actionable information.

IMHO it is also somewhat disappointing is the fact that there is only one developer working on HAMMER2. Easy clustering is Dragonfly’s feature and storage clusters are becoming ever more important. Why isn’t H2 being actively worked on to get this very major feature done?

]]> By: PB https://www.dragonflydigest.com/2017/05/08/new-radeon-updates-and-what-to-do-with-them/comment-page-1/#comment-486408 Sat, 13 May 2017 23:03:20 +0000 https://www.dragonflydigest.com/?p=19668#comment-486408 Maybe not all of have the proper skills to know how to perform a benchmark

]]> By: Justin https://www.dragonflydigest.com/2017/05/08/new-radeon-updates-and-what-to-do-with-them/comment-page-1/#comment-486407 Sat, 13 May 2017 19:24:46 +0000 https://www.dragonflydigest.com/?p=19668#comment-486407 The quickest, shortest path to a new set of benchmarks is to do them – and the methodology of the last set was documented.

]]> By: Anonymous https://www.dragonflydigest.com/2017/05/08/new-radeon-updates-and-what-to-do-with-them/comment-page-1/#comment-486406 Sat, 13 May 2017 18:02:11 +0000 https://www.dragonflydigest.com/?p=19668#comment-486406 + 1 new benchmark for Postgres.

]]> By: Lawrence D. https://www.dragonflydigest.com/2017/05/08/new-radeon-updates-and-what-to-do-with-them/comment-page-1/#comment-486401 Fri, 12 May 2017 16:35:13 +0000 https://www.dragonflydigest.com/?p=19668#comment-486401 Also, instead of the Francois 2013 benchmarks on

https://www.dragonflybsd.org/performance/

I found that Francois did another run of benchmark in 2014, linked below.

https://www.pgcon.org/2014/schedule/attachments/309_PG_as_bench_mark.pdf

Still 3 years old and a lot has happened both with Dfly and Linux in the last 3 years.

Would love to see these updated with Linux 4.10 and Dfly 4.8

]]> By: Lawrence D. https://www.dragonflydigest.com/2017/05/08/new-radeon-updates-and-what-to-do-with-them/comment-page-1/#comment-486400 Fri, 12 May 2017 16:31:32 +0000 https://www.dragonflydigest.com/?p=19668#comment-486400 Francois benchmarks are the best. Really hope he updates his benchmarks as well (and includes Linux).

]]> By: WA https://www.dragonflydigest.com/2017/05/08/new-radeon-updates-and-what-to-do-with-them/comment-page-1/#comment-486398 Thu, 11 May 2017 21:51:58 +0000 https://www.dragonflydigest.com/?p=19668#comment-486398 +1 Francois rerun benchmarks

]]> By: Anon https://www.dragonflydigest.com/2017/05/08/new-radeon-updates-and-what-to-do-with-them/comment-page-1/#comment-486397 Thu, 11 May 2017 20:19:59 +0000 https://www.dragonflydigest.com/?p=19668#comment-486397 @Francois Tigeot

Any chance of you updating your Postgres benchmarks?

]]> By: Francois Tigeot https://www.dragonflydigest.com/2017/05/08/new-radeon-updates-and-what-to-do-with-them/comment-page-1/#comment-486396 Thu, 11 May 2017 15:57:34 +0000 https://www.dragonflydigest.com/?p=19668#comment-486396 For me, the killer feature is cheap filesystem-based deduplication.

Being able to store 1.6TB of data on a 1TB volume hosted on a machine with only 4GB of memory is simply not possible with other operating systems.

]]> By: Anonymous https://www.dragonflydigest.com/2017/05/08/new-radeon-updates-and-what-to-do-with-them/comment-page-1/#comment-486394 Thu, 11 May 2017 13:00:42 +0000 https://www.dragonflydigest.com/?p=19668#comment-486394 An active developer on board who cares about good available Ada support is enough for me to like dfly. That’s niche, but hey, every non-Windows OS is.

]]> By: mer https://www.dragonflydigest.com/2017/05/08/new-radeon-updates-and-what-to-do-with-them/comment-page-1/#comment-486392 Thu, 11 May 2017 12:08:59 +0000 https://www.dragonflydigest.com/?p=19668#comment-486392 I’m beginning to think we all pick the OS we want to use simply because of the logo/mascot.
FreeBSD has Beastie (the new bobble thing sucks)
DragonFly has a Red dragonfly
OpenBSD has Puffy
Linux has a penguin
NetBSD has a flag
Windows has a BSOD

]]> By: enduser https://www.dragonflydigest.com/2017/05/08/new-radeon-updates-and-what-to-do-with-them/comment-page-1/#comment-486391 Thu, 11 May 2017 10:53:18 +0000 https://www.dragonflydigest.com/?p=19668#comment-486391 ZFS is not FreeBSD’s project. Also, ZFS project has died. ZFS project wanted to keep close to Solaris zfspool versionwise. FreeBSD was just closer to Solaris’s than other BSDs that also have ZFS as their feature. It’s just that FreeBSD wants to be good wrt marketing and politics. Do you see NetBSD advertizing the fact that zfs actually works on NetBSD x86 & amd64? Current FreeBSD’s ZFS is OpenZFS and is equally available to many, including to distros that are not using a bsd kernel, like linux. OpenZFS = zfspool version 5000. Every OpenZFS user has the same features! There are also the distros that use a kernel that is like linux, structurally, shared by several distros, each with their own userland, the illumos kernel. So, when will the nonsense stop, because ZFS is definitely not a unique feature of FreeBSD! DragonflyBSD is a lighterweight BSD that wants to be modern through simplicity. There are a ton of modern features that could get into DBSD but didn’t because of their overcomplexity and bloatness. ZFS won’t ever fit DragonflyBSD. DragonflyBSD inherited the performance oriented goals from FreeBSD, but nowadays it’s so easy to differentiate between these two performance BSDs. DragonflyBSD currently cares more about GCC, FreeBSD will stay with Clang. DragonflyBSD currently works with nginx reuseport, unlike FreeBSD. People who want modern as defined in FreeBSD won’t find DragonflyBSD interesting, so why advertize DragonflyBSD? Use it first if you think it’s for you. If you won’t ever have a need to install DragonflyBSD, why know it exists? It won’t fix your itches.

]]> By: javan https://www.dragonflydigest.com/2017/05/08/new-radeon-updates-and-what-to-do-with-them/comment-page-1/#comment-486389 Thu, 11 May 2017 06:30:39 +0000 https://www.dragonflydigest.com/?p=19668#comment-486389 Some funny reasoning here, I don’t want to use X because a newer better X+ is in the works. What happens when FreeBSD starts creating a “newer better” zfs. Everyone should bail on it?

]]> By: Anonymous https://www.dragonflydigest.com/2017/05/08/new-radeon-updates-and-what-to-do-with-them/comment-page-1/#comment-486387 Thu, 11 May 2017 01:13:39 +0000 https://www.dragonflydigest.com/?p=19668#comment-486387 + 1 for Quigley

]]> By: Quigley https://www.dragonflydigest.com/2017/05/08/new-radeon-updates-and-what-to-do-with-them/comment-page-1/#comment-486385 Wed, 10 May 2017 22:07:13 +0000 https://www.dragonflydigest.com/?p=19668#comment-486385 >> “The best thing about dbsd is that it (the sw) or the community suits you and your use case period.”

You do realize that if people don’t even know WHY to use dbsd, that’s an issue.

Educating people on why is called Content Marketing. And yes, educating people why to use your product is a form of marketing. Like it or not.

]]> By: Anon Y. Mouse https://www.dragonflydigest.com/2017/05/08/new-radeon-updates-and-what-to-do-with-them/comment-page-1/#comment-486384 Wed, 10 May 2017 20:22:08 +0000 https://www.dragonflydigest.com/?p=19668#comment-486384 Why should the devs care?
No one is going to pay them for marketing. Nor do I think a dev cares too much about marketing. The best thing about dbsd is that it (the sw) or the community suits you and your use case period.

]]> By: Eric Jasper https://www.dragonflydigest.com/2017/05/08/new-radeon-updates-and-what-to-do-with-them/comment-page-1/#comment-486383 Wed, 10 May 2017 19:26:19 +0000 https://www.dragonflydigest.com/?p=19668#comment-486383 + 1 better branding if DBSD

]]> By: TW https://www.dragonflydigest.com/2017/05/08/new-radeon-updates-and-what-to-do-with-them/comment-page-1/#comment-486382 Wed, 10 May 2017 12:43:40 +0000 https://www.dragonflydigest.com/?p=19668#comment-486382 Anonymous

In the perf benchmark above, 16 different speed tests were performed.

Dragonfly was the fastest in only 1 of 16 test. And it just so happened to be the first test.

In all of the other 15 test, dragonfly was not the fastest

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