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		By: Wojtek		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Wojtek]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2014 13:12:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hammer1 is already best filesystem with history. Add swapcache and it&#039;s a wonder.
ANYTHING like virtualbox or qemu-kvm is missing. I need this as i always run few small VMs on production servers in my clients location.

ZFS is a joke. i use UFS under FreeBSD]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hammer1 is already best filesystem with history. Add swapcache and it&#8217;s a wonder.<br />
ANYTHING like virtualbox or qemu-kvm is missing. I need this as i always run few small VMs on production servers in my clients location.</p>
<p>ZFS is a joke. i use UFS under FreeBSD</p>
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		By: Rahul Siddharthan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rahul Siddharthan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2014 18:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I came really close to using Dragonfly on my new work desktop.  I wanted a modern filesystem and Hammer seemed best.   Unfortunately there are programs I need to run for which only linux binaries exist (obscure non-opensource bioinformatics tools) and the Dragonfly linuxulator on amd64 apparently doesn&#039;t work.  FreeBSD&#039;s does I believe (32-bit linux on 64-bit Freebsd which would be good enough) but, after much agonising, I decided to stick with linux (ubuntu) and use zfs.  

But I admit the other factor against Dragonfly was that Matt Dillon, after writing a filesystem that on paper is far superior to anything else out there, decided not to push it further and instead spend a few years writing its incompatible successor Hammer2.  I need stability and so, I expect, do most users.  Dragonfly is an awesome research project but I don&#039;t do research on operating systems... A pity, because the world needs Hammer -- and if someone could manage a Linux port I think it would be snapped up (given that it doesn&#039;t suffer the licensing problems of ZFS and, unlike Btrfs, has proved its stability).  

My hope is Matt knows what he&#039;s doing and Hammer2 will be so ultra-awesome that everyone will rush to port it...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I came really close to using Dragonfly on my new work desktop.  I wanted a modern filesystem and Hammer seemed best.   Unfortunately there are programs I need to run for which only linux binaries exist (obscure non-opensource bioinformatics tools) and the Dragonfly linuxulator on amd64 apparently doesn&#8217;t work.  FreeBSD&#8217;s does I believe (32-bit linux on 64-bit Freebsd which would be good enough) but, after much agonising, I decided to stick with linux (ubuntu) and use zfs.  </p>
<p>But I admit the other factor against Dragonfly was that Matt Dillon, after writing a filesystem that on paper is far superior to anything else out there, decided not to push it further and instead spend a few years writing its incompatible successor Hammer2.  I need stability and so, I expect, do most users.  Dragonfly is an awesome research project but I don&#8217;t do research on operating systems&#8230; A pity, because the world needs Hammer &#8212; and if someone could manage a Linux port I think it would be snapped up (given that it doesn&#8217;t suffer the licensing problems of ZFS and, unlike Btrfs, has proved its stability).  </p>
<p>My hope is Matt knows what he&#8217;s doing and Hammer2 will be so ultra-awesome that everyone will rush to port it&#8230;</p>
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		By: foo		</title>
		<link>https://www.dragonflydigest.com/2014/06/04/dragonfly-3-8-released/comment-page-1/#comment-137665</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[foo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2014 05:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Justin Sherrill

Thanks for the clarification.]]></description>
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<p>Thanks for the clarification.</p>
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		By: Justin Sherrill		</title>
		<link>https://www.dragonflydigest.com/2014/06/04/dragonfly-3-8-released/comment-page-1/#comment-136894</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Justin Sherrill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2014 12:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In general, call it &quot;DragonFly&quot;.  In a context where it&#039;s important to label it as an operating system or as part of the BSD &#039;family&#039;, call it &quot;DragonFlyBSD&quot;.  If you hate typing, call it &#039;dfly&#039;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In general, call it &#8220;DragonFly&#8221;.  In a context where it&#8217;s important to label it as an operating system or as part of the BSD &#8216;family&#8217;, call it &#8220;DragonFlyBSD&#8221;.  If you hate typing, call it &#8216;dfly&#8217;.</p>
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		By: foo		</title>
		<link>https://www.dragonflydigest.com/2014/06/04/dragonfly-3-8-released/comment-page-1/#comment-136853</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[foo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2014 11:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m just wondering what is the proper name of the project: is it DragonFly or DragonFly BSD. If its name is DragonFly BSD, why is &quot;BSD&quot; missing from the title. I remember the very early times when it was called &quot;DragonFly BSD&quot;, but recently you stopped calling it like earlier.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m just wondering what is the proper name of the project: is it DragonFly or DragonFly BSD. If its name is DragonFly BSD, why is &#8220;BSD&#8221; missing from the title. I remember the very early times when it was called &#8220;DragonFly BSD&#8221;, but recently you stopped calling it like earlier.</p>
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		By: joris		</title>
		<link>https://www.dragonflydigest.com/2014/06/04/dragonfly-3-8-released/comment-page-1/#comment-136789</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[joris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2014 09:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Also, don&#039;t add -j to make installword. It might be broken (at least it is for me), due to recent changes.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, don&#8217;t add -j to make installword. It might be broken (at least it is for me), due to recent changes.</p>
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		By: Francois Tigeot		</title>
		<link>https://www.dragonflydigest.com/2014/06/04/dragonfly-3-8-released/comment-page-1/#comment-136628</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Francois Tigeot]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2014 06:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think the previous poster was talking about ports builds here]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think the previous poster was talking about ports builds here</p>
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		By: John		</title>
		<link>https://www.dragonflydigest.com/2014/06/04/dragonfly-3-8-released/comment-page-1/#comment-136618</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2014 06:07:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[-j numbers are the default.

E.g. ports will build with -j4 on 4-core machines, assuming the port is not marked jobs unsafe.

In other words, no, you don&#039;t need to add &quot;-jX&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>-j numbers are the default.</p>
<p>E.g. ports will build with -j4 on 4-core machines, assuming the port is not marked jobs unsafe.</p>
<p>In other words, no, you don&#8217;t need to add &#8220;-jX&#8221;</p>
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		By: Anonymous		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2014 04:51:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The main page doesn&#039;t announce 3.8. Pkg will likely have a conflict, if you have heimdal or certain other packages, you&#039;ll need to delete them and then try to upgrade again. For the makes followed by build, you should add -j (number of your processesors +1).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The main page doesn&#8217;t announce 3.8. Pkg will likely have a conflict, if you have heimdal or certain other packages, you&#8217;ll need to delete them and then try to upgrade again. For the makes followed by build, you should add -j (number of your processesors +1).</p>
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