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		By: Justin Sherrill		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Justin Sherrill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Dec 2013 17:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.dragonflydigest.com/2013/11/24/lazy-reading-for-20131124/comment-page-1/#comment-73645&quot;&gt;ddb&lt;/a&gt;.

It&#039;s not the trackpoint, it&#039;s the keyboard itself.  The old Thinkpad keyboard size and shape is the comfiest for me.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.dragonflydigest.com/2013/11/24/lazy-reading-for-20131124/comment-page-1/#comment-73645">ddb</a>.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not the trackpoint, it&#8217;s the keyboard itself.  The old Thinkpad keyboard size and shape is the comfiest for me.</p>
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		By: ddb		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ddb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Dec 2013 12:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[jrm&#039;s suggestions work quite well for me, thanks!

Justin, if it&#039;s mostly the trackpoint you&#039;re after, there&#039;s http://www.pckeyboard.com/ . They sell Model M-style buckling spring keyboards, and some models have trackpoints, too.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jrm&#8217;s suggestions work quite well for me, thanks!</p>
<p>Justin, if it&#8217;s mostly the trackpoint you&#8217;re after, there&#8217;s <a href="http://www.pckeyboard.com/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.pckeyboard.com/</a> . They sell Model M-style buckling spring keyboards, and some models have trackpoints, too.</p>
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		By: jrm		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jrm]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Nov 2013 18:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[A little more information for mouse control in X...

I also have this in /etc/rc.conf

moused_enable=&quot;YES&quot;
moused_ums0_flags=&quot;-A 2.5,2.0 -a 1.2 -V&quot;

Maybe this applies to DragonFly as well?  This little guide might also be helpful: https://forums.freebsd.org/viewtopic.php?f=39&#038;t=706&#038;p=3808&#038;hilit=mouse#p3808.

The FreeBSD forums are in transition right now, so things might look strange there for awhile.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A little more information for mouse control in X&#8230;</p>
<p>I also have this in /etc/rc.conf</p>
<p>moused_enable=&#8221;YES&#8221;<br />
moused_ums0_flags=&#8221;-A 2.5,2.0 -a 1.2 -V&#8221;</p>
<p>Maybe this applies to DragonFly as well?  This little guide might also be helpful: <a href="https://forums.freebsd.org/viewtopic.php?f=39&#038;t=706&#038;p=3808&#038;hilit=mouse#p3808" rel="nofollow ugc">https://forums.freebsd.org/viewtopic.php?f=39&#038;t=706&#038;p=3808&#038;hilit=mouse#p3808</a>.</p>
<p>The FreeBSD forums are in transition right now, so things might look strange there for awhile.</p>
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		By: Justin Sherrill		</title>
		<link>https://www.dragonflydigest.com/2013/11/24/lazy-reading-for-20131124/comment-page-1/#comment-73327</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Justin Sherrill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Nov 2013 03:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ugh.  I was apparently just a few months too late finding out about the thinkpad keyboards; they&#039;re discontinued everywhere.  There&#039;s a few sellers on eBay, but it&#039;s over $100.  I&#039;ll just have to keep watching...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ugh.  I was apparently just a few months too late finding out about the thinkpad keyboards; they&#8217;re discontinued everywhere.  There&#8217;s a few sellers on eBay, but it&#8217;s over $100.  I&#8217;ll just have to keep watching&#8230;</p>
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		By: vr		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[vr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Nov 2013 02:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t believe no one mentioned the Space Cadet or the later Symbolics Macivory keyboards.  What is hacker.net coming to?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t believe no one mentioned the Space Cadet or the later Symbolics Macivory keyboards.  What is hacker.net coming to?</p>
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		By: jrm		</title>
		<link>https://www.dragonflydigest.com/2013/11/24/lazy-reading-for-20131124/comment-page-1/#comment-73325</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jrm]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Nov 2013 02:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I also have one of the Lenovo keyboards.  It looks identical to the one in the picture and  I ordered it from Lenovo only a few months ago.  The mouse works fine for me in X under FreeBSD.  I put &quot;xset m 4 0&quot; in ~/.xinitrc.  I use it with my desktop because it feels very similar to my X220 keyboard.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also have one of the Lenovo keyboards.  It looks identical to the one in the picture and  I ordered it from Lenovo only a few months ago.  The mouse works fine for me in X under FreeBSD.  I put &#8220;xset m 4 0&#8221; in ~/.xinitrc.  I use it with my desktop because it feels very similar to my X220 keyboard.</p>
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		By: Justin Sherrill		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Justin Sherrill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Nov 2013 01:55:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My hunch is that the trackpoints on the Thinkpads oversample, and that&#039;s why they seem so sensitive; I have a x230 at work that had the same problem in X and then in Windows 7 until I installed the specific drivers for it from Lenovo.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My hunch is that the trackpoints on the Thinkpads oversample, and that&#8217;s why they seem so sensitive; I have a x230 at work that had the same problem in X and then in Windows 7 until I installed the specific drivers for it from Lenovo.</p>
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		By: ddb		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ddb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Nov 2013 00:30:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have one of the Lenovo keyboards you mention.  Feels more like the newer Lenovo ThinkPad keyboards to me, so it&#039;s quite acceptable, but not as good as the old IBM ThinkPad keyboards.  Also, the track point seems to work well only under Windows; under X, it&#039;s much too sensitive.  I think I&#039;ve read somewhere that there is no mitigation, but this might be a false memory; I don&#039;t use it (the track point) often anyway.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have one of the Lenovo keyboards you mention.  Feels more like the newer Lenovo ThinkPad keyboards to me, so it&#8217;s quite acceptable, but not as good as the old IBM ThinkPad keyboards.  Also, the track point seems to work well only under Windows; under X, it&#8217;s much too sensitive.  I think I&#8217;ve read somewhere that there is no mitigation, but this might be a false memory; I don&#8217;t use it (the track point) often anyway.</p>
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