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		By: Joe "Floid" Kanowitz		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe "Floid" Kanowitz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 20:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[No mention of init alternatives is complete without mention of &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://upstart.ubuntu.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Upstart&lt;/A&gt; (Ubuntu&#039;s chosen horse) and Macintosh/Darwin &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Launchd&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;launchd&lt;/A&gt;, I guess.

Both are pretty similar.  Strangely, I&#039;m sitting at a Ubuntu 8.10 box and see no evidence of Upstart on the system... maybe I haven&#039;t had enough coffee, or maybe this particular install is still just using straight sysvinit for some reason.  In past experience -- about a year ago -- Upstart seemed reasonable but for the fact that it retains backwards compatibility with sysv scripts [so at that time, Ubuntu was shipping it with essentially no native configuration] but it wasn&#039;t behaving exactly like sysvinit, so it could become a day at the race conditions when it tried to spawn everything at once.

Personally, I don&#039;t mind daemontools conceptually, but I find I&#039;m always getting into whack-a-mole situations when making live configuration changes and doing stupid things like killing svscan instead of supervise.  If svscan were doing anything other than running djbware, maybe I&#039;d learn not to do that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No mention of init alternatives is complete without mention of <a HREF="http://upstart.ubuntu.com/" rel="nofollow">Upstart</a> (Ubuntu&#8217;s chosen horse) and Macintosh/Darwin <a HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Launchd" rel="nofollow">launchd</a>, I guess.</p>
<p>Both are pretty similar.  Strangely, I&#8217;m sitting at a Ubuntu 8.10 box and see no evidence of Upstart on the system&#8230; maybe I haven&#8217;t had enough coffee, or maybe this particular install is still just using straight sysvinit for some reason.  In past experience &#8212; about a year ago &#8212; Upstart seemed reasonable but for the fact that it retains backwards compatibility with sysv scripts [so at that time, Ubuntu was shipping it with essentially no native configuration] but it wasn&#8217;t behaving exactly like sysvinit, so it could become a day at the race conditions when it tried to spawn everything at once.</p>
<p>Personally, I don&#8217;t mind daemontools conceptually, but I find I&#8217;m always getting into whack-a-mole situations when making live configuration changes and doing stupid things like killing svscan instead of supervise.  If svscan were doing anything other than running djbware, maybe I&#8217;d learn not to do that.</p>
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		By: Anonymous		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 18:46:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Nice to know someone&#039;s playing around with good ole version 7 (most likely the first UNIX I was introduced to), but it&#039;s worked just fine in simh for a while.  Maybe it could have a second life as a better embedded OS than MSDOS, but then again, competition for that title is fierce.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice to know someone&#8217;s playing around with good ole version 7 (most likely the first UNIX I was introduced to), but it&#8217;s worked just fine in simh for a while.  Maybe it could have a second life as a better embedded OS than MSDOS, but then again, competition for that title is fierce.</p>
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