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		By: Joe "Floid" Kanowitz		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve been researching power consumption lately, mostly on the AMD side of things -- which has a clear lead on the desktop/server chips.  [Disclaimer: AMD shareholder. :)]

One odd thing: Semprons appear to have a higher performance-per-watt than Athlon64s; with modern processes, large cache can apparently suck a lot of power vs. the execution units.  From various benchmarks, I get the impression a Socket 939 Sempron 3400+ is at least on par with the low (3000+?) end of the A64 range; remember, the Sempron fake-clock numbers are supposed to compare to a Duron, while the Athlon fake-clock numbers compare to previous Athlons.  They also apparently have a nice low consumption at idle -- something like 9W for some particular model, though the A64s are only a little further into the double-digits -- which was an efficiency concern for me replacing office desktops that spend a lot of time doing nothing.

If you want something dual-core, there&#039;s a thermal sweet spot somewhere around the 3800+ x2 and, I think, maybe the 4200+ or one particular lower-numbered 4n00+.
(Using http://www.hothardware.com/viewarticle.aspx?articleid=710&#038;cid=1 for a quick reference here.)

If you absolutely don&#039;t give a shake about performance, apparently the new Geodes with the funny part numbers pop into Socket A.  Of course, then your northbridge might have a louder fan than the CPU.  No idea how this compares price or performance-wise vs. going EPIA.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been researching power consumption lately, mostly on the AMD side of things &#8212; which has a clear lead on the desktop/server chips.  [Disclaimer: AMD shareholder. :)]</p>
<p>One odd thing: Semprons appear to have a higher performance-per-watt than Athlon64s; with modern processes, large cache can apparently suck a lot of power vs. the execution units.  From various benchmarks, I get the impression a Socket 939 Sempron 3400+ is at least on par with the low (3000+?) end of the A64 range; remember, the Sempron fake-clock numbers are supposed to compare to a Duron, while the Athlon fake-clock numbers compare to previous Athlons.  They also apparently have a nice low consumption at idle &#8212; something like 9W for some particular model, though the A64s are only a little further into the double-digits &#8212; which was an efficiency concern for me replacing office desktops that spend a lot of time doing nothing.</p>
<p>If you want something dual-core, there&#8217;s a thermal sweet spot somewhere around the 3800+ x2 and, I think, maybe the 4200+ or one particular lower-numbered 4n00+.<br />
(Using <a href="http://www.hothardware.com/viewarticle.aspx?articleid=710&#038;cid=1" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.hothardware.com/viewarticle.aspx?articleid=710&#038;cid=1</a> for a quick reference here.)</p>
<p>If you absolutely don&#8217;t give a shake about performance, apparently the new Geodes with the funny part numbers pop into Socket A.  Of course, then your northbridge might have a louder fan than the CPU.  No idea how this compares price or performance-wise vs. going EPIA.</p>
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