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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;Very bad things happen if you try to checkout from the repo without that file [root/.cvsrc], and then attempt to rebuild the system. I am left wondering why it&#039;s not included by default, instead of being in the errata for the release.&quot;

hahaha this sentence was soo funny, I&#039;ve never seen an OS where this file is included by default and btw, cvs isn&#039;t the program of choice to check out/update the source files (dfly like fbsd uses cvsup for that)

&quot;Also of note in the errata, new users don&#039;t automatically have the new pkgsrc related paths in their profiles by default. A minor issue, and easilly fixed, but it leaves me wondering how something like this got missed in the RCs. Do the developers and testers only ever log in as root?&quot;

No I only log in as root when it&#039;s really necessary, the whole system can be build as a plain user and for everything else there&#039;s sudo/su

another thing is that I&#039;ve been running 1.3-current and once they switched to pkgsrc it was a matter of seconds to add /usr/pkg/{s,}bin to the appropriate files

&quot;Setting up 1.4 to do anything useful (as a desktop system for example) of course requires a number of third party packages, which currently are in short supply.&quot;

Well freebsd and netbsd have donated high-end build systems and compiling all those pkgs on an ordinary pc takes ages.

&quot;Although the pkgsrc tools are included on the CD, they serve no immediate purpose due to the lack of working packages, or even a pkgsrc tree on hand with which to attempt to build them.&quot;

what&#039;s wrong fetching a pkgsrc tarball from ftp.netbsd.org or one of it&#039;s mirrors?

or what&#039;s wrong pkg_add&#039;ing pkgs from the internet?

so after all I did not enjoy reading this article, especially blaming dfly for not having /root/.cvsrc is a very weak point and I&#039;d consider it a minor issue or not an issue at all.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Very bad things happen if you try to checkout from the repo without that file [root/.cvsrc], and then attempt to rebuild the system. I am left wondering why it&#8217;s not included by default, instead of being in the errata for the release.&#8221;</p>
<p>hahaha this sentence was soo funny, I&#8217;ve never seen an OS where this file is included by default and btw, cvs isn&#8217;t the program of choice to check out/update the source files (dfly like fbsd uses cvsup for that)</p>
<p>&#8220;Also of note in the errata, new users don&#8217;t automatically have the new pkgsrc related paths in their profiles by default. A minor issue, and easilly fixed, but it leaves me wondering how something like this got missed in the RCs. Do the developers and testers only ever log in as root?&#8221;</p>
<p>No I only log in as root when it&#8217;s really necessary, the whole system can be build as a plain user and for everything else there&#8217;s sudo/su</p>
<p>another thing is that I&#8217;ve been running 1.3-current and once they switched to pkgsrc it was a matter of seconds to add /usr/pkg/{s,}bin to the appropriate files</p>
<p>&#8220;Setting up 1.4 to do anything useful (as a desktop system for example) of course requires a number of third party packages, which currently are in short supply.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well freebsd and netbsd have donated high-end build systems and compiling all those pkgs on an ordinary pc takes ages.</p>
<p>&#8220;Although the pkgsrc tools are included on the CD, they serve no immediate purpose due to the lack of working packages, or even a pkgsrc tree on hand with which to attempt to build them.&#8221;</p>
<p>what&#8217;s wrong fetching a pkgsrc tarball from <a href="http://ftp.netbsd.org" rel="nofollow ugc">http://ftp.netbsd.org</a> or one of it&#8217;s mirrors?</p>
<p>or what&#8217;s wrong pkg_add&#8217;ing pkgs from the internet?</p>
<p>so after all I did not enjoy reading this article, especially blaming dfly for not having /root/.cvsrc is a very weak point and I&#8217;d consider it a minor issue or not an issue at all.</p>
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