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		By: rehab junkie		</title>
		<link>https://www.dragonflydigest.com/2004/08/16/bsd-and-flash/comment-page-1/#comment-363</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rehab junkie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Aug 2004 10:19:13 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s such a shame BSD users (apart from OS X) continue to be ignored by Macromedia.  Oh well.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s such a shame BSD users (apart from OS X) continue to be ignored by Macromedia.  Oh well.</p>
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		By: Joe "Floid" Kanowitz		</title>
		<link>https://www.dragonflydigest.com/2004/08/16/bsd-and-flash/comment-page-1/#comment-362</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe "Floid" Kanowitz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Aug 2004 01:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[While it&#039;d almost be nice to think us desktop users could avoid Macromedia&#039;s screwiness entirely... I&#039;ll let you be the one to go around replacing every single piece of legacy SWF content with the SVG equivalent.  

(Meanwhile, I haven&#039;t kept up, but it&#039;s been pointed out to me that the basic flat-text representation of SVG can be dangerously... far from small.  I&#039;m not sure if tokenized/compressed variants are already on the way, and there&#039;s always mod_gzip... but if it&#039;ll take a Blu-Ray disc -- or as likely, proprietary Macromedia compression -- to hold an episode of Homestar Runner, there&#039;s going to be a problem with adoption in the near term.)

That said, I expect they were hoping they could ride that sea change without having to support any more architectures for free. (Only Win/Lin x86 and two flavors of MacPPC are supported publically, but don&#039;t forget the work they must be doing to support the mobile market... and wonder how much of that can be profitable, since they *are* struggling to maintain the relevance of their crossplatform promise.)

But there is a way out... All they really have to do is support linuxpluginwrapper development (and portability) to make life Good Enough in the transition.  That project&#039;s matured enough to make Flash 6 (on FreeBSD) a no-brainer, but it&#039;s a shame it can&#039;t support what seems to be the quite performance-improved Flash 7.  (I had no luck running 7 under 5.2&#039;s Linuxulator, either, so   drawing Macromedia attention there could give &#039;BSD&#039; a greater boost -- broader Linux API support in general -- for potentially less effort.)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While it&#8217;d almost be nice to think us desktop users could avoid Macromedia&#8217;s screwiness entirely&#8230; I&#8217;ll let you be the one to go around replacing every single piece of legacy SWF content with the SVG equivalent.  </p>
<p>(Meanwhile, I haven&#8217;t kept up, but it&#8217;s been pointed out to me that the basic flat-text representation of SVG can be dangerously&#8230; far from small.  I&#8217;m not sure if tokenized/compressed variants are already on the way, and there&#8217;s always mod_gzip&#8230; but if it&#8217;ll take a Blu-Ray disc &#8212; or as likely, proprietary Macromedia compression &#8212; to hold an episode of Homestar Runner, there&#8217;s going to be a problem with adoption in the near term.)</p>
<p>That said, I expect they were hoping they could ride that sea change without having to support any more architectures for free. (Only Win/Lin x86 and two flavors of MacPPC are supported publically, but don&#8217;t forget the work they must be doing to support the mobile market&#8230; and wonder how much of that can be profitable, since they *are* struggling to maintain the relevance of their crossplatform promise.)</p>
<p>But there is a way out&#8230; All they really have to do is support linuxpluginwrapper development (and portability) to make life Good Enough in the transition.  That project&#8217;s matured enough to make Flash 6 (on FreeBSD) a no-brainer, but it&#8217;s a shame it can&#8217;t support what seems to be the quite performance-improved Flash 7.  (I had no luck running 7 under 5.2&#8217;s Linuxulator, either, so   drawing Macromedia attention there could give &#8216;BSD&#8217; a greater boost &#8212; broader Linux API support in general &#8212; for potentially less effort.)</p>
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		By: bern1		</title>
		<link>https://www.dragonflydigest.com/2004/08/16/bsd-and-flash/comment-page-1/#comment-361</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Aug 2004 10:20:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Actually, mircomedia already released a flashplayer for a bsd-based system called macosx.

What is absolutely uninteresting about it ?

1) Running the linux version with COMPAT_LINUX on *BSD/i386 on a Pentium with 130 MHz is about as fast as the native macosx version on a G4 with altivec.

2) Flash and SWF is already obsolete! the product with a future is the flash authoring environment. Have it for Linux ? I bet not...

In the meanwhile, have a look at the mozilla svg project if you are interested in what is really comming to *BSD;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, mircomedia already released a flashplayer for a bsd-based system called macosx.</p>
<p>What is absolutely uninteresting about it ?</p>
<p>1) Running the linux version with COMPAT_LINUX on *BSD/i386 on a Pentium with 130 MHz is about as fast as the native macosx version on a G4 with altivec.</p>
<p>2) Flash and SWF is already obsolete! the product with a future is the flash authoring environment. Have it for Linux ? I bet not&#8230;</p>
<p>In the meanwhile, have a look at the mozilla svg project if you are interested in what is really comming to *BSD;</p>
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